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Should there be a section for retired staff, i.e., Acree? Also, someone should grab the various userbar ranks for staff and add them to the respective sections of this page. --Peridot Prior (talk) 15:50, 30 June 2014 (BST) I'm not sure a section for retired staff is necessary, as they're no longer staff. It isn't a record, but a list of current staff. --Luggs (talk) 05:21, 1 July 2014 (BST) Maybe a separate page as record, then? --Tirea Niwn (talk) 03:22, 22 July 2014 (BST)

I don't think that will be necessary as I plan on completely rewriting the Staff page, using a completely new structure. Hopefully it will be ready by tomorrow, but I won't make promises. Once the new staff page is up, this can be brought up again, but until then, I ask that you be patient with me. Feel free to check out my Sandbox, it has the completed Staff Table that will be featured on the new page. -signed, KingVesper (talk) 03:58, 22 July 2014 (BST)
The new Staff page is now up and running. Any new concerns should discussed by opening up new topics. Thank you. -signed, KingVesper (talk) 07:25, 22 July 2014 (BST)

New Content

I think the new version of this page looks very cool. I don't know about having the PF1 details though, since this wiki is supposed to be about PFQ. The responsibilities could possibly be expanded upon further rather than copypasta'd from the staff roster. I also don't know if the table tips are needed, the table itself seems intuitive enough to read as is. -Zephyr Foxworth (talk) 08:05, 22 July 2014 (BST)

Thank you, I'm glad you like it! I originally thought the same, but when I asked for the official staff records for PFQ, all those positions were included on it. Also, just because this is the PFQ Wiki, does not mean that all information on the PF1 Wiki is automatically off-limits, especially not with issues that directly affect PFQ matters. Look at Garthic's history, for example, it's a lot easier to see why he was made a Admin on PFQ after taking into account the amount of Staff experience he had from PF1, and a lot of other Staff members are the same way.
The position descriptions (responsibilities) were not copy and pasted, they were all individually written by me. I did, however, base them off the information found on the Roster. The tooltips are there for users who are not familiar with PF1, but the repetition bothers me. If you have a solution to this, I would love to hear it. Thank you for your comments! -signed, KingVesper (talk) 08:20, 22 July 2014 (BST)
I got some sleep. Sorry for not really offering constructive words to my post last night, I got a bit grumpy after a few hours of a gaming session, and this was the first thing I saw after. I didn't mean to come across as saying that PF1 info was forbidden, but didn't see its relevance until you mentioned it. Although, I still don't see the need for it. On many sites I've visited, I've not questioned why people were in their staff positions. I always just assumed that they had reasons for being mods/admins and thought nothing more of it. Then again, I do think that PF's staff is a bit more social with its community than most sites, so I guess being curious about the staff's history is not unheard of.
Sorry for thinking they were copypasta'd. I'm not sure what was going on in my head when I thought that after reading a couple. For the PF1 notes, what about unitalicizing all instances of 'Current' and italicizing any PF1 listings, referencing the italics as PF1 stuff? -Zephyr Foxworth (talk) 19:50, 22 July 2014 (BST)
Oh, you don't have to apologize. If anything, I should be the one apologizing if I came off as having a rude tone; that was not my intention. Back to our issue: I want to fix the tooltip abuse, but I don't know if replacing it with italicized abuse would be any better. Perhaps editing the OldSta tooltip to clarify that all positions held before the marked position were held on PF1. That way it would only have to be used once per user, greatly cutting down on tooltip use. Would that work? -signed, KingVesper (talk) 06:52, 23 July 2014 (BST)
I guess it wouldn't help the "tooltip abuse" to add the Missing template where the date is missing? ^^" Maybe dividing the History into the PF1 and PFQ history would help? --Uzumi (talk) 17:09, 27 August 2014 (BST)

Page Rewrite

The staff table is way too big. It's proven to be a hassle to update, and there are more efficient ways to present the information it holds. I want to rewrite the page, but I don't know what information to include on the page. What information on the staff table should be kept? Are the position dates really needed? What information needs to be removed, and what needs be added? -KingVesper (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2015 (GMT)

I don't think the position history is important, only the current position really matters. Something like this (with the usernames being links to the PFQ profiles) might be interesting :
Position Users Userbar Responsabilities
System Administrator Niet The System Administrator is responsible for the overall status of PokéFarm Q, with focus on the internal workings of the website. Bug Fixes, System Maintenance, and Feature Updates all fall under the responsibilities taken by users holding this position (Niet).
Staff Administrator Garthic The Staff Administrator has the highest authority among the Staff, and has direct control over staff affairs. Serious issues concerning members of the Staff should be brought to his attention immediately.
Super Moderators Sei Super Moderators (SuperMods) are experienced Staff members who oversee general Staff affairs. SuperMods have a strong presence among the Staff, and are capable of overruling lower-ranking staff members. Issues beyond a Moderator's control or experience is brought up to them.
Ravyne
General Moderators Typhlosion Rob
Bacent
Loooker
Eltafez
Acree
Moderators (Mods) work to make sure that PokéFarm retains a stable state of control and peace, by making sure that all Rules are followed and enforced. Moderators currently make up the largest portion of the Staff force, and are readily available to help the general userbase with any issues they may encounter while on the website. Moderators also manage the Support Centre.
etc. etc. etc. etc.

--Kpwbo (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2015 (GMT)

I'm starting to think that having a table overly simplifies the purpose of the page. If, instead, the page were to objectively detail the staff positions, and give examples of the duties of each position, I think that would better accommodate for future staffing changes, as well as become more suited to describing just what "Staff" is/means. So the whole page should read as a normal wiki article, and an example of the current staff could be given at the beginning of each section, with a brief staff history as a tooltip. Like such:

Super Moderators

Currently Staffed by: [Sei] and [Ravyne]

Super Moderators (SuperMods) are experienced Staff members who oversee general Staff affairs. SuperMods have a strong presence among the Staff, and are capable of overruling lower-ranking staff members. Issues beyond a Moderator's control or experience is brought up to them.

If we can add more details to each staffrank, such as more specific tasks or a better scale of their duties, then I suspect this page will scale in size in a manner that won't become overwhelming, and should prove to be much easier to update. -Z. Foxworth (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2015 (GMT)

Ledah

We should add Ledah back into the Moderator section, since you know... she's a Moderator again. :)

Blank Banshee

Ravyne seems to have returned to the site as a moderator under the name of blank banshee, complete with her old custom moderator tag with the jirachi in it. Not sure how to add it here, but it probably should be added.

--Kingskybomber14 (talk) 19:10, 7 November 2017 (GMT)

Done, thank you for pointing it out! --Uzumi (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2017 (GMT)